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Podcast Episodes

Here's all of our recommended OOUX-y podcast episodes, across the podcast-universe. If you want to see "official" OOUX Podcast episodes only, head over to this handy OOUX Podcast page.

054 - The Full ORCA Process Overview plus 15 Pro Tips
054 - The Full ORCA Process Overview plus 15 Pro Tips

In this solo episode of the podcast, Sophia gives a great bird's eye view of the ORCA process, outlining each step, how it can stand alone on its own, and what the main "tripping point" is for each part of the process. Plus, a teaser for the advanced training, March 1, 2024. Buckle up and grab something to take notes!

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053 - OOUXing Government with Kristin Ouellette Muskat
053 - OOUXing Government with Kristin Ouellette Muskat

Kristin Ouellette Muskat is a Certified OOUX Strategist who is the Principal User Experience Designer at Coforma, and has worked in the government space for years. In this episode of podcast, Sophia and Kristin discuss why it's important to work at a sustainable pace, yak shaving in government work, how working in government differs from private companies, plus OOUXing the law.

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052 - OOUXing Thoughts, Feelings, and Your Life with Karen Hewell
052 - OOUXing Thoughts, Feelings, and Your Life with Karen Hewell

Greetings OOUXers! In this New Years episode of the podcast, we welcome Content Designer, Information Architect, and Certified OOUX Consultant, Karen Hewell. Sophia and Karen discuss the power of naming your feelings and thoughts, the difference between feelings and thoughts, mapping your polarizing traits can make you more confident, & how to get started OOUXing your life.

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051 - (ORCA Series #7) - Object-Oriented User Stories from Santa's Workshop
051 - (ORCA Series #7) - Object-Oriented User Stories from Santa's Workshop

In this seventh installment of the ORCA Series, Sophia brings some holiday cheer while covering CTA Requirements. Revisiting the Santa Delivery App from ORCA Series #6, Relationship Requirements, she explores the four ways you can upgrade your basic user stories, plus how to use AI to help you fill in the gaps you might have missed.

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050 - (ORCA Series #6) - My Cat Saving Fire Department with Holiday Vibes
050 - (ORCA Series #6) - My Cat Saving Fire Department with Holiday Vibes

Sophia delivers episode #6 in the ORCA Series: Relationship Requirements. Sophia expands on "My Cat Saving Fire Department," the power tool for analyzing object relationships. Using the example of Santa delivering presents, she illustrates how to apply this tool to understand relationships between objects, plus a rule of thumb for recognizing tree systems!

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049 - (ORCA Series #5) - Object Guide Strategies for Ridiculous Clarity
049 - (ORCA Series #5) - Object Guide Strategies for Ridiculous Clarity

In this fifth installment of the ORCA Series, Sophia discusses Object Requirements, how to skip ORCA steps & loop back to them as needed, as well as ways to customize the ORCA sprint, plus the potential use of artificial intelligence in generating object guides.

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048 - (ORCA Series #4) - Top Attributes to Consider for Every Object
048 - (ORCA Series #4) - Top Attributes to Consider for Every Object

In this fourth installment of the ORCA Series, Sophia discusses the 15 attributes that you'll want to consider for every single object in your system. Think about this like a gut check or a question guide for each object.

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047 - Nine Traits of a High-Value UX Designer
047 - Nine Traits of a High-Value UX Designer

What makes a UXer high-value? In this solo episode of the podcast, Sophia outlines the nine traits that a "high-value" UX Designer should have.

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046 - (ORCA Series #3) - CTA Disco
046 - (ORCA Series #3) - CTA Disco

In this third installment of the ORCA Series, Sophia discusses why objects aren’t more important than all the other parts of a system but are essential to understanding the system, plus she gives 8 tips for CTA discovery!

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045 - Defining Inheritance with Richard Gower
045 - Defining Inheritance with Richard Gower

In this episode of the podcast, Sophia & Richard discuss what it was like when object-oriented programming was invented, why "legacy" has one meaning in life & another in software, & why we've kind of been using the word "inheritance" wrong this whole time.

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044 - Implementing OOUX at IKEA with Kamil van Buuren
044 - Implementing OOUX at IKEA with Kamil van Buuren

Kamil Van Buuren is a Digital Experience Design Team Leader at IKEA, With a focus on IKEA's co-worker & employee experiences. In this episode of the podcast, Sophia & Kamil discuss when to give your team a heavy versus a light dose of OOUX, using OOUX to quickly gain domain knowledge at a new job, plus how to more efficiently divide & conquer on a complicated project.

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043 - Facilitating ORCA Sprints with Allie Ofisher
043 - Facilitating ORCA Sprints with Allie Ofisher

Allie Ofisher is a UX Consultant & Certified OOUX Strategist who focuses on information architecture, user research, & of course, OOUX. In this episode of the podcast, Sophia & Allie discuss running an ORCA Sprint for the Church of Latter Day Saints, how best to teach the process to stakeholders who might not have a design background, plus future plans for implementing future ORCA Sprints.

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042 - OOUX at Trello with Caitlin Steele & Liam Greig
042 - OOUX at Trello with Caitlin Steele & Liam Greig

Caitlin Steele is the Experience Design Manager at Jira & Liam Greig is Head of Design at Confluence, both previously were at Trello. In this episode of the podcast, Sophia, Liam, & Caitlin discuss the aftermath of an OOUX Design Sprint at Trello, how maybe OOUX isn't for everyone, & strategies for bringing OOUX to a big organization.

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041 - OOUX Yoga with Ewelina Nowakowska
041 - OOUX Yoga with Ewelina Nowakowska

Ewelina Nowakowska is a Certified OOUX Strategist and is the Director of UI/UX Design & Development at American Reading Company. In this episode of the podcast, Sophia & Ewelina discuss the ways in which OOUX is like mental yoga practice, how ORCA helps teams work faster, plus some exciting innovations that may be on the horizon from OOUX headquarters.

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040 - (ORCA Series #2) - Eight Hot Tips to Level Up Your System Modeling Prowess
040 - (ORCA Series #2) - Eight Hot Tips to Level Up Your System Modeling Prowess

In this episode of the podcast, Sophia explains eight ways to level up your system modeling skills, plus diagramming The Church of Latter Day Saints!

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039 - Content Design at Wealthfront and Chewy.com, with Chase Roberts
039 - Content Design at Wealthfront and Chewy.com, with Chase Roberts

In this episode of the podcast Sophia and Chase discuss using Object-Oriented UX to onboard at Chewy.com, creating new objects at Wealthfront, how OOUX fits in with other design methodologies, plus how you can get started with OOUX in your organization. We nerded out in this one. Enjoy!

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038 - OOUX at HelloFresh with Jake Zukowski
038 - OOUX at HelloFresh with Jake Zukowski

In this episode of the podcast, Sophia talks to the VP of Design and Research at HelloFresh — Jake Zukowski. They discuss how a designer on his team started sneaking OOUX through the backdoor into their design meetings, they debate about the difference between a Product Manager and a UX Designer, and they talk about how PMs can bring OOUX to their teams.

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037 - Joe Natoli on OOUX (a sneak peak into our new course!)
037 - Joe Natoli on OOUX (a sneak peak into our new course!)

In this super candid conversation, Joe Natoli and Sophia sit down to talk UX process, sketching, creativity, agile, and how OOUX can fit into to all of the above, "meeting you where you are". We'll give you a look into the new course that Joe and Sophia are launching on April 1st, 2023 — a course that targets the fundamentals of OOUX and can get you rocking and rolling in about a weekend.

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036 - UXing in the Dark, Finding the Light
036 - UXing in the Dark, Finding the Light

Sophia goes way back to her childhood, high school, college days, and early UX career to make sense of the current state of OOUX and ORCA. Sophia gets into the frustrations of designing in the dark, shares a few juicy life lessons, and reveals the early principles that make up the foundation of her career — and the movement she’s built.

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035 - (ORCA Series #1) Start any UX Project with Noun Foraging
035 - (ORCA Series #1) Start any UX Project with Noun Foraging

In this episode of the podcast, Sophia kicks off the first in a 15-part series on her ORCA (Objects, Relationships, CTAs, and Attributes) process. This first installment will cover the process of Noun Foraging. Learn Sophia's 10 hot tips for getting started with noun foraging. Plus, how artificial intelligence can help you do the work, and how noun foraging might not be just for nouns. Enjoy!

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Episode 034 - Running ORCA Sprints at Autodesk
Episode 034 - Running ORCA Sprints at Autodesk

Sophia lays out her findings after successfully rolling out the ORCA Sprint envisioned in episode 033 from last season. She talks about manifesting the ORCA Sprint from concept to deliverable, what worked and what didn't work (and what can probably be skipped) while running the first ORCA Sprint, and why ending Day 2 of the ORCA Sprint with a nav flow is guaranteed to blow people's minds.

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UX Pathways - Season 2 Episode 5: Sophia V Prater
UX Pathways - Season 2 Episode 5: Sophia V Prater

In this interview with Sophia Prater on the UX Pathways Podcast, Sophia talks about how she got into UX back in 2008 and gets up on her soapbox about how the UX industry is failing and how UXers are often set up to design in the dark. If you are interested in the OOUX Masterclass, make sure to stay until the end.

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Design Thinking Games Podcast with Sophia Prater
Design Thinking Games Podcast with Sophia Prater

Sophia was interviewed by Service Designer, Michael Schofield, and UX Designer, Tim Broadwater, for their podcast, Design Thinking Games, a podcast that “examines the player experience of board games, pen and paper roleplaying games, live action games, and video games.” In this episode, they discuss the game-like aspects of OOUX and the guys give their play-tested review of the OOUX card game.

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Episode 033 - The ORCA Sprint with Sophia V. Prater
Episode 033 - The ORCA Sprint with Sophia V. Prater

In this solo episode of the podcast (and final episode of this season), Sophia talks about a new concept called "The ORCA Sprint." A week-long OOUX journey teams can take to tackle their projects head-on with the methodology of ORCA (tackling objects, relationships, calls-to-action, and attributes).

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Episode 032 - How to "Dev-ign" with Keith Rich and Anthony Gallo
Episode 032 - How to "Dev-ign" with Keith Rich and Anthony Gallo

In this episode of the podcast, Sophia chats with Keith and Anthony about how they discovered OOUX, how they use it at Think Company, and what it means to "dev-ign."

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Episode 031 - Applying Value Paths to OOUX with Samuel Hulick
Episode 031 - Applying Value Paths to OOUX with Samuel Hulick

In this episode, Sophia and Samuel chat about Value Paths and how they hone in on the deeper value of our products. Listen as they lay this lens over a medical prescription app design challenge, the Headspace onboarding experience, and even OOUX.com's offerings.

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Episode 030 - Why designers should “dev” with Caroline Sober-James
Episode 030 - Why designers should “dev” with Caroline Sober-James

In this episode of the podcast, Sophia and Caroline discuss why designers should cultivate empathy toward developers, how to be "a designer devs swoon over," and how quickly Caroline's conversations with developers turn into "OOUX lovefests."

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Episode 029 - Mapping Content Ecosystems with Scott Kubie
Episode 029 - Mapping Content Ecosystems with Scott Kubie

In this episode of the podcast, Sophia and Scott discuss is-ness versus ought-ness, the rhetorical nature of creating a content ecosystem, plus how exactly one goes about making a content ecosystem map.

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Episode 028 - Metaphors and Moment Prisons with Lou Rosenfeld
Episode 028 - Metaphors and Moment Prisons with Lou Rosenfeld

In this episode of the podcast, Sophia and Lou discuss why portals should be banned, what precisely is the definition of "moment prison," and why we shouldn't get emotional about our professional metaphors.

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Episode 027 - OOUXing Whiskey with Steve Smith
Episode 027 - OOUXing Whiskey with Steve Smith

Steve is a software engineer, a UXer, and a serial entrepreneur. His early company, Ordered List, was acquired by GitHub and after a long stint as a product designer at GitHub, we met when we were both consulting to NineLabs. He is the founder and lead designer at Box Out Designs, which is basically Canva for the sports industry.

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UI Breakfast Podcast. Episode 229: Object-Oriented UX with Sophia Prater
UI Breakfast Podcast. Episode 229: Object-Oriented UX with Sophia Prater

Sophia was interviewed on the UI Breakfast Podcast. How can object-oriented UX help designers solve complex product problems? You’ll learn why object-oriented thinking is well-suited for design processes, how a shared vocabulary enables collaboration, practical mapping tips, and more.

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Episode 026 - Atomic Design and OOUX with Brad Frost
Episode 026 - Atomic Design and OOUX with Brad Frost

As you probably know, Brad Frost is the author of "Atomic Design," the creator of pattern lab, and a design systems advocate and educator. In this episode of the podcast, Sophia and Brad discuss how technology is like a river, why it's important for everyone on a project to have a shared language, and how design systems are like furniture parts.

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Episode 025 - Bridging Development and Design with Miriam Suzanne and Sondra Eby Eisenstat
Episode 025 - Bridging Development and Design with Miriam Suzanne and Sondra Eby Eisenstat

In this episode of the podcast, Sophia, Sondra, and Miriam discuss the adaptability of the ORCA process for teams, the coming innovations of container queries in CSS, and how OOUX facilitates a fruitful, continuous conversation between designers and developers.

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Episode 024 - Value Paths and OOUX with Samuel Hulick
Episode 024 - Value Paths and OOUX with Samuel Hulick

Samuel Hulick runs UserOnboard, where he researches, writes about, and implements successful user onboarding for companies around the world. In this episode of the podcast, Sophia and Samuel discuss how OOUX helped with a crisis of faith, how there's more than one way to learn to ride a bike, and why the right objects at the right time are the answer to good UX.

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Episode 023 - Understanding the System with Cassie Eddy and OOUX
Episode 023 - Understanding the System with Cassie Eddy and OOUX

Cassie Eddy is a UX Designer and Researcher at Health Catalyst in Boston. She is also a Certified OOUX Strategist and active mentor in the OOUX Certification Program. In this episode of the podcast, Sophia and Cassie discuss learning to code, the information architecture of Crossfit, and how OOUX can help with combining passions in career and life.

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Episode 022 - Introducing object-oriented thinking to LinkedIn with Harrison Wheeler
Episode 022 - Introducing object-oriented thinking to LinkedIn with Harrison Wheeler

Harrison Wheeler is a Senior Design Manager at Linkedin and is the host of his own user experience design podcast: Technically Speaking. In this episode of the podcast, Sophia and Harrison discuss how OOUX provides a chance to take a principled approach to design, why social media websites are like old enterprise software, and how inheritance can be used to build user trust.

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Episode 021 - Is OOUX just a useless IA rebrand?
Episode 021 - Is OOUX just a useless IA rebrand?

Sophia goes solo once again to address a question someone in the OOUX Self-Paced Masterclass Program brought to her from a senior UXer who just didn't see the value of OOUX when information architecture already exists. It's one she's heard more than once from those familiar with IA. Is OOUX just a rebrand of IA that no one asked for and no one needs?

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Episode 020 - How to Sell UX Research with OOUX
Episode 020 - How to Sell UX Research with OOUX

In this episode, your host Sophia Prater flies solo to show you how to sell more UX research using Object-Oriented UX—more specifically, the first two steps of the ORCA process. We will talk about how to make your stakeholders and biz folks aware of gaps in the team’s understanding and become more invested in important questions that need to be brought to users.

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Episode 019 - OOUXing Security with Andrea Neuhoff and Kristen Kite
Episode 019 - OOUXing Security with Andrea Neuhoff and Kristen Kite

In this episode of the podcast, Andrea, and Kristen talk with Sophia about their work together at Duo Security, how they have started bringing OOUX to Duo for a double whammy of complexity wrangling, and how taking all of people's weird behaviors into account helps design better online security products.

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Episode 018 - OOUXing your UX Career with Amanda Worthington
Episode 018 - OOUXing your UX Career with Amanda Worthington

In this episode of the podcast, Sophia and Amanda talk about OOUXing your portfolio and making real connections at the UX Hustle Conference, How everything in your career has its season, and how Amanda leveraged her technical background as a civil engineer with her passion for design to build a new kind of web shop.

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Episode 017 - Using OOUX in the wild with Caroline Sober-James
Episode 017 - Using OOUX in the wild with Caroline Sober-James

In this episode of the podcast, Sophia and Caroline discuss why Caroline calls OOUX a power tool for digital design, what it's like to have a user call your system "seamless," and the parallels between OOUX and API design.

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Episode 016 - OOUXing Healthcare with Imogen Levy
Episode 016 - OOUXing Healthcare with Imogen Levy

In this episode of the podcast, Sophia and Imogen discuss how PDFs are bad for accessibility, why OOUX is not waterfall design, and exactly how many times you have to repeat yourself for your message to sink in.

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Episode 015 - Living in Information with Jorge Arango
Episode 015 - Living in Information with Jorge Arango

In this episode of the podcast, Sophia and Jorge discuss why the tension between top-down and bottom-up is the greatest challenge to designers, how to recognize signs that you’re working on a “greedy” product, and why social media is like a meeting that lasts forever.

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Episode 014 - Writing is Designing with Michael Metts and Andy Welfle
Episode 014 - Writing is Designing with Michael Metts and Andy Welfle

In this episode of the podcast, Sophia, Michael, and Andy discuss why team clarity brings user clarity, how new UX writers should go about developing a company voice, and why communicating trade-offs is a killer skill.

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Episode 013 - Taxonomy Folksonomy and Knowledge Graphs with Ahren Lehnert and Bob Kasenchak
Episode 013 - Taxonomy Folksonomy and Knowledge Graphs with Ahren Lehnert and Bob Kasenchak

In this episode, Sophia, Ahren, and Bob discuss how taxonomies differ from folksonomies, how folksonomies differ from ontologies, and how common vocabularies keep design projects on track.

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Episode 012 - Designing Resilience with Jeremy Keith
Episode 012 - Designing Resilience with Jeremy Keith

In this episode, Sophia and Jeremy discuss how responsive design made the truth about the Internet apparent, why the invisible is hard to prioritize, and what a bad design system means for our end users.

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Episode 011 - Bringing OOUX to Microsoft with Sarah Barrett and Rachel Price
Episode 011 - Bringing OOUX to Microsoft with Sarah Barrett and Rachel Price

In this episode of the podcast, Sophia, Sarah, and Rachel discuss how to think like a library scientist, how being conventional can be a virtue, and why accessibility is good for everyone, not just the differently-abled.

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Episode 010 - Information Archaeology with Ren Pope
Episode 010 - Information Archaeology with Ren Pope

In this episode, Sophia and Ren discuss how to build a taxonomy around cosplay, how information architecture is more like information archaeology, and why it's important to understand the context of meta metadata.

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Episode 009 - Embodied Cognition with Andrew Hinton
Episode 009 - Embodied Cognition with Andrew Hinton

In this episode, Sophia and Andrew discuss the meaning of embodied cognition, the pitfalls of being a physical creature in a digital environment, and why sometimes, creating inconsistency can help you be consistent.

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Episode 008 - Designing XR via OOUX with Cornel Hillmann
Episode 008 - Designing XR via OOUX with Cornel Hillmann

Cornel Hillmann is a CG Artist, XR Designer, and Entrepreneur. He is the owner and creative director at Studio.CGArtist.com and Emerging Entertainment and has worked with brands including Panasonic, Jaguar, the Singapore International Film Festival, and other big names.

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24 Minutes of UX: Object Oriented UX with Sophia Prater and Joseph Duteil
24 Minutes of UX: Object Oriented UX with Sophia Prater and Joseph Duteil

"Advice Giver" Sophia Prater and "Advice Seeker" Joseph Duteil discuss OOUX and how the idea is rooted in practice starting with a project for CNN in 2012, and how it has evolved into a repeatable approach, helping UXers tackle any type of app, site or software.

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Episode 007 - Building Design Systems and Systems for Building Designers with Ben Callahan
Episode 007 - Building Design Systems and Systems for Building Designers with Ben Callahan

In this episode, we are revisiting the December 2019 episode with Ben Callahan. Ben is a design system expert and the founder and president of Sparkbox. At Sparkbox, Ben has created an amazing workplace that facilitates learning, exploring, asking questions, and pet projects.

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Episode 006 - Object-Oriented UX in Business and in Games with Caroline Sober-James (Rerun)
Episode 006 - Object-Oriented UX in Business and in Games with Caroline Sober-James (Rerun)

Caroline Sober-James has journeyed from database architect to UX designer to a fellow object-oriented UX evangelist. We look at how OOUX can help with client meetings as well as debate how OOUX applies to fantasy games, board games, and classic Nintendo.

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Episode 005 - Content Modeling with Carrie Hane
Episode 005 - Content Modeling with Carrie Hane

In this episode, Sophia and Carrie discuss what exactly a content model is, why navigation is the most volatile layer of the content stack, and IA in UX education.

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Episode 004 - OOUX As A Foundation For Interaction Design
Episode 004 - OOUX As A Foundation For Interaction Design

In this episode, Sophia takes us on an audio walk-through of the "calls-to-action" methodology of her ORCA process. She will guide you through how to get started designing complex systems, how to make a CTA Matrix that's based on real-world objects, and why doing so will pay dividends.

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Episode 003 - Putting Your Components in Context with Dan Mall
Episode 003 - Putting Your Components in Context with Dan Mall

Dan Mall is one of the leading experts in design systems. In this episode, learn how to start a design system project the right way, the pros and cons of “flexible cards” which can lead to what I call masked objects, and how OOUXers can create a ton of value on a design system team.

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Episode 002 - Get Your Hands Dirty With the ORCA Process
Episode 002 - Get Your Hands Dirty With the ORCA Process

This episode is an audio WORKSHOP that’s going to teach you the basics of OOUX and the ORCA process. If you listened to the first episode, you should have a zoomed-out, big picture Idea of what OOUX is all about. But in this episode, you’ll actually get to practice OOUX!

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Episode 001 - An Updated Look at "Object Oriented UX," the Article
Episode 001 - An Updated Look at "Object Oriented UX," the Article

October 20, 2015 was when Sophia's article on OOUX debuted on A List Apart. In this episode of the podcast, Sophia shows you how her philosophy and process have changed since then and how OOUX was forged in the crucible of CNN Election Night 2012.

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The Full-Stack Design System on The Intercom Podcast
The Full-Stack Design System on The Intercom Podcast

Emmet Connolly is an advocate of the "full-stack design system", basically a design system that is rooted in a clear, shared conceptual model. "You shortcut a lot of extra thinking once you start with, “What does this object need to be?”' AGREED. In a hurry? Skip to min 9 to cut to the chase.

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